Trump says he ‘hardly knows’ this ‘total phony’ Cassidy Hutchinson

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Former President Donald Trump tried to distance himself from former aide Cassidy Hutchinson who was the House January 6 select committee’s special guest during Tuesday’s surprise hearing. 

‘I hardly know who this person, Cassidy Hutchinson, is, other than I heard very negative things about her (a total phony and “leaker”), and when she requested to go with certain others of the team to Florida after my having served a full term in office, I personally turned her request down,’ Trump posted to his social media site Truth Social as Hutchinson’s testimony was ongoing. 

Hutchinson provided embarrassing anecdotes about Trump’s behavior during her Tuesday testimony – including that he tried to grab the wheel of the presidential limo, the ‘Beast,’ after he was told he couldn’t go to the Capitol Building on January 6 and threw food at the wall after Attorney General Bill Barr said there was no widespread fraud in the 2020 election. 

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Using Truth Social, former President Donald Trump (left) tried to distance himself from ex-aide Cassidy Hutchinson (right) as she testified Tuesday in front of the January 6 House select committee 

The former president pushed that Cassidy Hutchinson was only playing ball with the Democrat-led committee because he didn't keep her on his payroll after he left office in January 2021 and relocated to Mar-a-Lago

The former president pushed that Cassidy Hutchinson was only playing ball with the Democrat-led committee because he didn’t keep her on his payroll after he left office in January 2021 and relocated to Mar-a-Lago 

He also said her anecdote about him trying to grab the Beast's steering wheel after he was told he couldn't go to the Capitol on January 6 'Fake' and 'fraudulent' and denied testimony about how he would throw food and dishes when angry

He also said her anecdote about him trying to grab the Beast’s steering wheel after he was told he couldn’t go to the Capitol on January 6 ‘Fake’ and ‘fraudulent’ and denied testimony about how he would throw food and dishes when angry 

‘Why did she want to go with us if she felt we were so terrible?’ Trump said Tuesday. 

He suggested that Hutchinson only played ball with the Democrat-led committee because he didn’t give her a job at Mar-a-Lago after he departed the White House in January 2021. 

‘I understand that she was very upset and angry that I didn’t want her to go, or be a member of the team,’ Trump said. ‘She is bad news!’ 

In another post on Truth social, Trump also accused Hutchinson of changing her story. 

‘She changed lawyers a couple of days ago, and with it, her story totally changed! SHOCKER???’ the ex-president alleged. 

The former president fumed over the testimony Hutchinson delivered about him throwing temper tantrums. 

‘Her Fake story that I tried to grab the steering wheel of the White House Limousine in order to steer it to the Capitol Building is “sick” and fraudulent, very much like the Unselect Committee itself – Wouldn’t even have been possible to do such a ridiculous thing,’ Trump wrote. 

‘Her story of me throwing food is also false…and why would SHE have to clean it up, I hardly knew who she was?’ the former president added. 

After Hutchinson’s testimony concluded, Trump continued to go after her on Truth social. 

‘Her body language is that of a total bull…. artist. Fantasy Land!’ he wrote. 

After Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony concluded, former President Donald Trump continued to go after her on Truth Social

After Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony concluded, former President Donald Trump continued to go after her on Truth Social 

‘I NEVER SAID, “MIKE PENCE DESERVES IT (to be hung). Another made up statement by a third rate social climber!’ he posted. 

Trump had made a similar remark about Pence to ABC News’ Jonathan Karl that corroborated Hutchinson’s testimony.  

‘A Total Phony!!!’ the former president added. 

‘There is no cross examination of this so-called witness. This is a Kangaroo Court!!’ Trump fumed. 

Trump has a history of turning on former aides and ex-political allies, a roster that now includes former Vice President Mike Pence and current Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. 

During the hearing, Hutchinson recalled an impromptu meeting on January 6 after Trump returned to the White House after speaking at the Ellipse she had with former Deputy Chief of Staff Tony Ornato and Bobby Engel, the head of Trump’s security detail. 

‘Did you hear what effing happened in the Beast?’ she said Engel asked her. 

She replied that she hadn’t heard. 

‘Tony proceeded to tell me that when the president got in the Beast he was under the impression from Mr. Meadows that the off-the-record movement to the Capitol was still possible and likely to happen, but that Bobby had more information,’ Hutchinson said. 

Trump, Hutchinson said, thought they were going up to the Capitol – like he had told his crowd of supporters he would do. 

This was in the hours before the attack. 

‘When Bobby had relayed to him we’re not, we don’t have the assets to do it, it’s not secure, we’re going back to the West Wing, the president had a very strong, very angry response,’ Hutchinson continued. 

She was told that Trump said something like: ‘I’m the effing president, take me up to the Capitol now!’ 

Engel, she said, reiterated that they were headed back to the White House. 

‘The president reached up toward the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel, Mr. Engel grabbed his arm and said, “Sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel, we’re going back to the West Wing, we’re not going to the Capitol,”‘ she said. 

‘Mr. Trump then used his free hand to lunge toward Bobby Engel and when Mr. Ornato had recounted this story to me he motioned toward his clavicles,’ Hutchinson said, as a sign the president went for Engel’s throat.  

GOP Rep. Liz Cheney then asked Hutchinson if Engel or Ornato ever changed their stories. 

‘Neither Mr. Ornato or Mr. Engel told me ever that it was untrue,’ Hutchinson testified. 

From there, Hutchinson talked about Trump throwing dishes when being served with bad news. 

She said she remembered ‘hearing noise’ on the heels of the Associated Press article being released in which Barr confirmed that Trump’s widespread election fraud claims weren’t real. 

Chief of Staff Mark Meadows was summoned to Trump’s office. 

When Meadows returned Hutchinson said she walked down toward the White House dining room. 

‘And I noticed that the door was propped open and the valet was inside the dining room changing the tablecloth off of the dining room table,’ she said. ‘He motioned for me to come in and then pointed toward the front of the room near the fireplace mantel and the TV.’ 

‘Where I first noticed there was ketchup dripping down the wall,’ she continued. ‘And there’s a shattered porcelain plate on the floor.’ 

‘The valet had articulated that the president was extremely angry at the attorney general’s AP interview and had thrown his lunch against the wall,’ she said, explaining that she then helped with the clean-up.

Cheney then asked Hutchinson if this was typical Trump behavior. 

‘There were several times throughout my tenure with the chief of staff that I was aware of him either throwing dishes or flicking the table cloth to let all of the contents of the table go onto the floor and likely break or go everywhere,’ Hutchinson volunteered.   

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